The Westboro Picket Schedule: Sprint Center in Kansas City, MO

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Monday, January 30, 2012 0 comments
Why is Kansas City in Montana and not Kansas?

On February 5, 2012, Westboro Baptist Church will picket the Sprint Center to picket the acts of Jeff Dunham, master ventriloquist and "America's favorite comedian" according to

Perhaps that has something to do with why they're picketing his performance there. The text is below:
WBC will picket Jeff Dunham at the Sprint Center in KCMO to warn this generation to flee from the wrath of God to come.
I still don't get why they say things like this when they also say that AMERICA IS DOOMED.
Your entertainment industry has become your idol and is full of filth.
Granted, this has some truth to it.
Jeff Dunham, you have been given one of the largest bullhorns in this nation and have the God-given duty to use that to glorify God.  Why don't you create a puppet and skit that does so?
Why are you asking these questions to people you most likely believe that God hates?
Meanwhile, the faithful servants of God at WBC will remain in your streets crying out wisdom.
[They then proceed to quote Proverbs 1:20-33]
You assume that what you are crying out is wisdom. What you are actually crying out is a gospel-less curse that grieves anyone who hears it. Then you'll sue whoever lays a finger on you instead of turn the other cheek.

That's more along the lines of being a total jerk than being wise.

What is WBC's motive?

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Saturday, January 28, 2012 0 comments

There are some people who believe that Westboro Baptist Church is just in it for attention. In essence, they probably don't believe what they preach and just feel the urge to troll people for the lulz.

There are also some people who believe that Westboro Baptist Church is some sort of "scam"--that it deliberately does its actions for the sake of money. The only reason the congregation pickets is for idiots to do something stupid so they can sue them for money.

But, as far as the church as a whole goes, both groups are wrong. Westboro Baptist Church members actually believe what they picket. It's embedded into their minds every Sunday; their punishing schedules revolve around their beliefs, and historical evidence leaves no other alternative.

Both theories make assumptions. The attention theory assumes that the church would be more willing to spend money to travel through the United States than they would be willing to troll on internet message boards for free, and the latter assumes that their motive is greed. Fred Phelps's motive is not greed or negative attention, though he seems to enjoy the latter. His motive can only be hate. As Mark Phelps describes his father:

"My father is addicted to hate. Why? I can't say. But I know he has to let it out. As rage. In doing so, he has violated the sacred trust of a parent and a pastor."
--Mark Phelps, son of Pastor Fred Phelps
Mark believes that, since his father is unable to vent his rage towards his family anymore, he must vent it towards other people. This may explain (at least in part) why Westboro Baptist Church never picketed anywhere until 1991, and how Fred managed to get himself disbarred from Kansas courts in 1979 and federal courts in 1989. Hate may very well be the motive of Fred Phelps, making him a narrow-minded bigot who believes that God hates the world as much as he does. And what is a better target to hate in this day and age than the LGBT crowd?

So, then, my answer to the question in the title is this: deep down, Fred's motive is that he hates people. For the church as a whole, their motive is that they actually believe it because Fred indoctrinated them with it.

Don't subscribe to wishful thinking. WBC actually is as messed up as they appear.

Westboro Baptist Church member endorses Obama?

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Thursday, January 26, 2012 0 comments
At first I was like "what the heck?"...

But then I was like "what the heck?".

They say that Obama is the Antichrist, and then one of them says that he'd rather have Obama as president than anyone else. And then says that anyone actually decent wouldn't run for president (ironic, given that Fred Phelps ran for governor three times).

I'll think about suitable commentary for this post, but as of right now I don't really have much.

What are Baptists?

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 0 comments
I believe a subject of this nature is necessary because:
  1. Westboro Baptist Church is... well, a Baptist church, and
  2. I'm a Baptist and strongly disapprove of them.
The Baptist "denomination", so to speak, is so named because of its tenet that baptism is for believers only and is done by immersion. They were often called "Anabaptists" in a derogatory manner because they rebaptized those who they believed hadn't been baptized right under Protestant denominations.

Speaking of which, Baptists do not identify themselves as Protestants; they see themselves as having an unbroken line of doctrine to the early apostles themselves, though the believers of said doctrines called themselves Waldensians, Paulicians, Donatists, or something else instead of Baptists. They have many quotes from men of ages long gone to support their belief:
"The Baptists are the only known body of known Christians that have never symbolized with Rome."
--Sir Isaac Newton 
"The institution of the Anabaptists is no novelty, but for 1300 years has caused great trouble in the church."
--Ulrich Zwingli, Protestant reformer 
"The sentiments of Baptists and their practice of baptism FROM THE APOSTOLIC AGE to the present, have had a continued claim of advocates, and public monuments of their existence in every century can be produced."
--Alexander Campbell, founder of the Campbellites
But the history of Baptists is not the purpose of this blog post. If you wish to have that history, I recommend that you look for and purchase A History of the Baptists by John T. Christian.

So wait, is that it? Just a dispute on an ordinance?

Well, no. Baptists have several distinctives, which many of them put into this nifty acrostic:

  • B: Bible as Sole Authority. The Bible is the only authority for Christian faith and practice. Jesus ripped the Pharisees a new one for putting tradition over the weightier matters of the law, so we see no need to do the exact same thing they did. Sola scriptura all the way.
  • A: Autonomy of the Local Church. Each church runs itself, basically. There are no boards or hierarchies that make decisions for individual assemblies. Thus, one cannot expect individual churches to always 100% agree on everything, particularly when comparing good Baptist churches and Westboro Baptist Church.
  • P: Priesthood of Every Believer. Each believer can personally come to God through our great High Priest, the Lord Jesus Christ, because he is the only mediator between God and men (1 Ti. 2:5).
  • T: Two offices: Pastor and Deacon. Just two groups that have any authority over how the church is run.
  • I: Individual Soul Liberty. Each person has the right to believe what he wishes to believe in this life, free from any governmental demand. Believers do, however, have the right to influence others and vice versa.
  • S: Saved (and baptized) church membership. Each church is an assembly of local believers. Unbelievers and the unbaptized (or baptized wrong) may visit the assembly but cannot join in membership until they are saved and baptized right.
  • T: Two ordinances: Baptism and the Lord's Supper. We believe that both of these were meant to be ordinances performed by all local churches, not just something done in the book of Acts.
  • S: Separation of Church and State: Neither the Church nor the State have any authority over each other. Baptists do not believe that government should be run (in this age) by a theocracy, or that the church should be government-run for any reason. Both are free to influence each other, though.

Because most Baptists are members of an independent church (exceptions exist--churches under the Southern Baptist Convention sacrifice some autonomy), the Baptist group has several sub-groups, some of them overlapping or encompassing others. Here are a few of them.

Primitive Baptists, also known as Hard Shell Baptists or Anti-Mission Baptists, hold to strong Calvinistic beliefs and refuse to support the idea of having mission boards. They generally don't like the idea of supporting missionaries, although a preacher going to foreign lands to preach is alright. Primitive Baptists came from the 18th century Separate Baptists that spawned from the Great Awakening. Westboro Baptist Church members are (radical) Primitive Baptists.

Reformed Baptists also hold to strong Calvinistic beliefs, but they do not seem to have strong views against mission boards. While not as common as General Baptists today, many great men in past times were Reformed Baptists, such as John Bunyan and Charles Spurgeon (who I respect despite being Calvinists). Reformed Baptists came from the old Particular Baptists in 15th century England.

General Baptists explicitly believe in a general atonement--that is, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all mankind. Therefore, they do not hold to Calvinistic theology. The administrator of Westboro Watch, Cap'n Coconuts, leans towards General Baptist views.

Independent Baptists are Baptists that are completely autonomous and independent from any denominations or conventions. Cap'n Coconuts is an Independent Baptist. Westboro Baptist Church is independent, not only because it believes as such, but also because no convention would want to deal with them.

Southern Baptists are those under the Southern Baptist Convention. While Southern Baptist churches have some autonomy, some organization happens at the state and national convention level, and thus they are not fully independent. Southern Baptists have Separate Baptists in their line of ancestry.

As I said before, if you wish to learn more about the history of the Baptists, John T. Christian is your author, and A History of the Baptists is your book. Or two books, rather. One volume is dedicated to early Christianity and European Baptists, and the other is dedicated to early American ones. Just shop carefully; there are some people on Amazon who would like to rip you off (as of this post, someone is selling Volume 1 for $242.22!).

Calvinism and Westboro Baptist Church: Predestination Exposed

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Monday, January 23, 2012 0 comments
In the last post of Calvinism and Westboro Baptist Church, we went through a brief history of Calvin and his theology and some of its tenets. In particular, I described the Five Points of Calvinism, also known as TULIP:
  • T: Total Depravity. Due to the Fall of Man caused by Adam and Eve, mankind is totally enslaved in sin. Because of this, man is inclined to serve his own lusts and desires instead of the God to the point of being morally unable to follow God without His intervention. (Total here means that sin affects every part of man--it doesn't mean that every man is as evil as possible.)
  • U: Unconditional Election. God has chosen from the beginning who he will reconcile to himself--not based on their virtue, merit, or faith, but grounded in his mercy alone. God chooses to extend mercy to those he chooses and refuses mercy to those he hasn't chosen.
  • L: Limited Atonement. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ is meant to atone for only the elect God has chosen, and no one else. It is limited in scope, not in power.
  • I: Irresistable Grace. God's grace to the elect will, at some point in their lives, forcibly overcome all their resistance to accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.
  • P: Perseverance of the Saints. As God is the sovereign predestinator of the fate of all mankind, none of the elect can cease to be the elect and lose their salvation. Christians that fall away were either not saved to begin with or will return to Christianity.
In this post, I intend to show just how ugly the U, L, and I are.

Unconditional Arbitration 

The latter four are parts of a doctrine known as predestination. In a general sense, predestination is God wills (at a certain point in time, or before "time" ever began) something to happen (after that point). In the Calvinist sense, it's God putting a select few into the Unconditional Elect based on His grace alone and not on the works or faith of the man.

The particulars need attention here. Predestination based on foreknowledge of faith is different from predestination based on God's grace. The former implies that God's grace encompasses all of mankind, even though God goes along and picks the elect before they get saved. The latter implies that God simply refused to offer grace to everyone and may as well have treated each soul as a lottery ticket.

Odds of getting God's grace: YOU ALREADY LOST

I can only therefore conclude that the Unconditional Election, and by extension God's grace, is arbitrary.

Limited Logic

If God's grace is arbitrary, than God's atonement, love, and hatred must be arbitrary. To the Calvinist, John 3:16 might as well be:
For God so loved the elect (and only the elect), that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever is part of His elect (and only the elect) should not perish, but have everlasting life. 
WBC's excuse (which is also used by many other Calvinists) for believing this is that the word κοσμος (pronounced "kahs-mahs") never means all of mankind, or that it at least doesn't have that meaning there.
No. You are probably thinking of John 3:16, which says no such thing. The word translated "world" in that verse (kosmos) NEVER means every individual of mankind who has ever lived (see, e.g., John 17:9)
I fail to see how Jesus not currently praying for the whole human race logically extends to "never loving the human race ever", but an in-depth tearing into the FAQ will have to wait for later. Right now, my point is that they don't believe it ever means "all of mankind". Ever. Not even in early church writings or secular Greek literature.

The Thayer's and Strong's dictionaries tell a different story. Here's an abridged Thayer's definition of that word.
1) an apt and harmonious arrangement or constitution, order, government
2) ornament, decoration, adornment, i.e. the arrangement of the stars, ‘the heavenly hosts’, as the ornament of the heavens.
3) the world, the universe
4) the circle of the earth, the earth
5) the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human family
6) the ungodly multitude; the whole mass of men alienated from God, and therefore hostile to the cause of Christ
7) world affairs, the aggregate of things earthly
     7a) the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ
8) any aggregate or general collection of particulars of any sort
     8a) the Gentiles as contrasted to the Jews
     8b) of believers only
WBC just believes that definition doesn't exist because it doesn't suit their beliefs. But, for a second, let's just assume WBC is right and God doesn't really love everyone on the planet. He just hates all workers of iniquity 24/7, teeth clenched, itching to damn those miserable little piles of secrets.

Then we read this.
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
--1 Timothy 2:1-6
I rest my case, though love and hatred will have to be further discussed in a later post.

Irresistible Implications

Remember the lottery ticket illustration I used above? I used it for a reason. When you have a lottery ticket, you have no idea what you'll win, or if you'll win anything at all. And once you scratch away the outer layers, you find out whether you won or lost.

A friend gave me some lottery tickets once. Now I wouldn't have bought them because the lottery isn't exactly a charity, but he already did, so I saw no harm in using them.

I lost. Every. Single. Time. It wasn't my fault I had lost on all of those tickets. My friend didn't know what was on the tickets either, so it couldn't be his fault.

But what if he did know? What if he knew that every ticket would have no prize and deliberately gave the losing tickets to me? Either he's just messing with me, or he's a total jerk. But then, I didn't really have anything to lose with those tickets. It's not like I'd be cast into hell for losing.

But that's how the Unconditional Election Lottery works.

Is it your fault if you lose God's Super Ultra Mega Million Unconditional Elect Lottery? Is it your fault if God deliberately gave the winning tickets to people who weren't you? Is it primarily your fault if you are doomed to a life of sin and eternal torment in the lake of fire because you lost?

Is it your fault that God lied when he had Paul and Peter write down that he wasn't a respecter of persons, let alone an arbitrary, nonsensical respecter of persons?!

But enough about losing. This section is about WINNING.


You see, not only is the Unconditional Elect Lottery rigged against most people, but it's rigged in favor of a select few. And they didn't do or believe anything to win.

It's not right to expect God to give salvation by grace through works. God's too incorruptible for corrupted men to satisfy. That's why Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins--something incorruptible had to pay the price of the corrupted so that the corrupted could be made incorruptible. It doesn't matter how many good things you do--one slip up and you've fallen short. Indulgences, mass, confessions before corrupted men, doing more good than bad, etc. can't earn you any merit in the eyes of an all-holy God.

Salvation by grace through faith, on the other hand, indicates that one realizes he can't just pay back for burning down an orphanage by building a new one, and instead pleads for mercy based on what the Incorruptible Christ did for him. There is no merit. Only belief, confession, repentance, and acceptance exist.

Salvation by grace through Unconditional Election just gives the elect a reason to be puffed up, because they're arbitrarily better than everyone else. God arbitrarily respected them and arbitrarily hated everyone else.

Several times in the Bible, FAITH/BELIEF is the requirement for salvation. Acts, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, and more contain evidence that BELIEF is the key. If our belief isn't what saves us and being in the arbitrary elect is, what's the point of mentioning BELIEF so many times? Why not leave it out of the Bible and put references to the elect God predestined before time started instead?

Because Calvinist predestination is wrong.

I am considering moving

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Thursday, January 19, 2012 1 comments
I'm considering dropping this Blogger-powered blog and moving elsewhere using Wordpress software due to its many features that Blogger doesn't have (or doesn't have as well).

Nonetheless, I will continue to update Westboro Watch on blogger until the decision is final. I've been amassing a queue of wonderful topics to talk about. There's no way I'm running out of content to blog about anytime soon.

The Westboro Picket Schedule: Harvy Milk High School in New York City

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Monday, January 16, 2012 0 comments
Looks a lot like just another city building. Yankees have no creativity!

Is it Harvy Milk or Harvey Bernard Milk?

Regardless, Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket there on the 24th of January. I'm not sure why a school in the Big Apple would name itself after a Californian politician... unless whoever named it really, really liked gays.

Westboro Baptist Church picketing at it is inevitable.

All the description text became bold on my end for some reason. I'm not entirely sure why because the filter at my college blocks some of the styles of the site (presumably due to Hate Speech or something). It could be possible that one of the Phelpses made it bold because they really don't like Harvey Milk.
Harvy Milk is in hell! The only thing important about him is that he lived in proud rebellion against the Lord his God! Now, his life is done and real time has begun.
Real time? What does that even mean?
Harvy Milk will remain in hell for eternity. For ever and ever, with no time off for good behavior. God Hates Fags. A profound theological statement, that would fix this country and this generation. Each word being pregnant with powerful meaning!
I'm working on a blog post on the subject of whether God hates and/or loves workers of iniquity. Yes, "and/or". I assure you readers that it will make sense when you read it.

And no, it wouldn't fix this country and generation because they believe that God arbitrarily decided who he would love and save before Genesis 1:1. It will only fix them if they're the elect, and the elect will be fixed regardless of whether or not they picket. So, in reality, it won't fix anything.
Listen to Pastor Phelps explain that sign!
Their video will have to wait for another blog post; this one's getting too long.
Well, it's not a terribly made video, but I wouldn't call it art. :P
Rebels, you cannot change God. You cannot multiply enough words to remove the sin of Doomed america before God.
So you claim that your message could fix America, then claim that it is doomed? You're contradicting yourself.
10 years ago, God sent two planes, like juggernauts through time and space to bring down the pride of the twin towers. That was the time to REPENT! By God, you would not repent. In fact, you got worse. 10 years later, New York, in blatent defiance against God (even as you displayed the remains of Pompaii, destroyed by God for their sodomitical practices) legalized same-sex marriage. God is not mocked! You sowed in the fields of Sodom and you will reap her abrupt, complete destruction!
40 years ago, Fred Phelps would beat whoever misspelled "Pompeii" with a mattock handle until he went numb. Then he'd beat him again.

Nonetheless, the Romans in general did allow some homosexual conduct. But if the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius was a display of the wrath of God, there is more than just homosexuality that God could have gone after: worship of false gods, persecution of Christians, etc.
Westboro Baptist Church has been faithful, rising early, daily and betimes to warn you for 21 years now. THAT is the mercy and compassion of God upon this nation. BUT, you have mocked the messengers of God, despised his word and misused his prophets until the wrath of God is now risen against you, and there is NO REMEDY!
But WBC, I thought you didn't believe that God so loved the whole world! Compassion is a complex emotion, made of love and sorrow. You're contradicting yourself again.

Also, if God had mercy on America, he wouldn't have kept most of it out of his elect.

Prove me wrong.
HERE YOU ARE DOOMED USA:2 Chr 36:11   Zedekiah (Obama etc.) was one and twenty years old when he began to reign, and reigned eleven years in Jerusalem. 12  And he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD his God, and humbled not himself before Jeremiah the prophet speaking from the mouth of the LORD. 13  And he also rebelled against king Nebuchadnezzar, who had made him swear by God: but he stiffened his neck, and hardened his heart from turning unto the LORD God of Israel. 14  Moreover all the chief of the priests, and the people, transgressed very much after all the abominations of the heathen; and polluted the house of the LORD which he had hallowed in Jerusalem. 15  And the LORD God of their fathers sent to them by his messengers, rising up betimes, and sending; because he had compassion on his people, and on his dwelling place: 16  But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy. All you have left is Imminent Destruction!
Granted, I don't deny that God could destroy America for iniquity. But I have a hard time believing that homosexuality would be the primary reason. It might be partially legalized in America, but it isn't rampant just yet. Abortion is a much better candidate IMO.
Westboro Baptist Church prays daily and patiently:  Dear Lord Jesus, please come and destroy this land!
I don't think that's what Paul had in mind.
"I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.."
--1 Timothy 2:1-6
WBC, you claim you love your neighbors through picketing, and yet you curse them with your prayers. No intercession. No supplication. No giving of thanks. Just vitriolic, hateful imprecations.

Jesus didn't come to destroy men's lives. He came to save them (Luke 9:51-56), even if they aren't part of the Calvinist Arbitrary ElectTM.

Outlawing Homosexuality is Pointless

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Saturday, January 14, 2012 0 comments
One of the boiling controversies today is homosexuality. People lobby for the outlawing of it. People lobby for the support of it. It seems to breed hate, leading to violent crimes (such as the murder of Matthew Shepard). It's also a very big reason why Westboro Baptist Church engages in picketing, so avoiding the subject is impossible.

I believe there are two questions that need to be answered here: 1) is homosexuality wrong, and 2) should it be legal? Yes, the two are separate questions, which I hope will make sense later.

If you believe that the Bible was verbally and plenarily inspired by God, you don't really have a choice in the former. Though it's mentioned very few times, homosexuality does have a very negative light in the few places where it is mentioned.
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."--Leviticus 18:22
Granted, some things changed after Jesus Christ died. For one, the burden of the Mosaic Law wasn't necessary for believers. However, there's a difference between eating non-kosher foods and engaging in something that was called an abomination, which means "an action that is vicious or vile; an action that arouses disgust or abhorrence."

Moreover, the condemnation is explicit in the New Testament.
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."--Romans 1:26, 27
It is true that mention of homosexuality is uncommon in the Bible. However, while repetition of something can indicate that it is more important, something being mentioned only a few times doesn't make it not important at all. Even if there's no external reason for its scarcity (e.g. "the practice was uncommon"), there's a reason you're supposed to read the fine print in a contract. That said, I believe that Westboro Baptist Church gives the issue far too much emphasis, as it is their primary emphasis. Why not emphasize "GOD HATES BABY KILLERS" or "GOD HATES SOPA" over "GOD HATES FAGS", or at least balance out the emphasis of issues?

But I digress. From at least those verses above, it should be expected that Orthodox Jews and conservative Christians believe that homosexuality is very, very bad. Given that Islam is the other major Abrahamic religion, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to guess what they believe concerning it.

Hinduism is a completely different story. Texts like the Vedas and ancient poetry depict saints, demigods, and gods having homosexual relationships. Feudal Japan recognized homosexual practices, especially in the Samurai period.

It can thus be inferred that the answer to the first question depends greatly on your religious beliefs. But, as a Christian who isn't liberal, I see homosexuality as wrong. But again, religioug beliefs.

The answer to the second question depends on how government should work, at least in this day and age. Israel in the Old Testament spent time as both a theocracy and a monarchy (which still had an official religion). Furthermore, the Bible records various miracles, prophecies, and other supernatural things happening during that time. If you had the gall to violate laws on sexuality in a setting like that, you had a death penalty coming.

But now it's the 21st century, and the dispensation of law and miracles on par with parting the Red Sea are long gone.

Perhaps we haven't reflected on it much, but the reasoning for outlawing homosexuality is almost entirely on a religious basis. Other than ensuring our survival as a species, there's very little, if anything, that can be said against homosexuality from a secular standpoint. It's also very difficult to imagine how homosexuality affects your fellow neighbors.

When church and state are separate (which I believe is necessary in this age to maintain each person's individual soul liberty), there is no reason for the state to enforce the morals of the church. Therefore, there is no reason for the United States to outlaw homosexuality, and Christians who lobby for or advocate doing so are wasting their time, energy, and money.

For evangelistic Christians, there's even more reason not to attempt this: making something illegal does nothing for the souls of those who are now outlaws. If anything, making it illegal would persecute homosexuals, and persecuting people for religious reasons makes your religion look bad. If Christians put more energy towards trying to prove why homosexuality is wrong with compassion instead of being homophobes lobbying for the outlawing of homosexual marriage, they would be more pleasing to their Master. Christians would certainly gain more converts if they used common sense and compassion instead of persecution.

Still fiddling around

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Friday, January 13, 2012 0 comments
As you can see, I added a background image to the blog header and a few other things. Someone recommended to me that I should add more images, so I'm going to think about how I can spruce up the blog a bit more.

I don't want to go overboard, though. I like the simple design I'm using right now.

If you have any suggestions for Westboro Watch, do not cease to comment and ask for them.

The Westboro Picket Schedule: Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills, CA

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Thursday, January 12, 2012 0 comments
On January 15, 2011, The Westboro Baptist Church will picket at the Beverly Hilton Hotel from 3 to 5 PM.

The description is brief and feels slightly more tame than the descriptions for previous pickets. I don't have too much to say about it, but I'll try anyway since one of my goals is to comment on everything in the picket schedule.
WBC will picket the Golden Globe Awards at the Beverly Hilton Hotel.  The film makers and actors who perform in the films have been given a great podium from which they have the duty to cry aloud, spare not, lift up their voice like a trumpet and shew the people their transgression and (America) their sin.  Isa. 58:1
 I find it odd that they would say this, since such would imply that the film makers and actors were born again Christians.
This generation waxes worse and worse as the years go by.
This is what the Bible teaches, and is consistent with at least the loss of traditional family values and the decrease of zealous (in a good way) Christians over time. They are correct according to the Bible.
The film industry has greatly contributed to the decline in society.
I cannot doubt that the film industry could have had an effect, along with communist-minded humanists trying to run public education and other things. But I do have an issue with this:
They promote filth and sin at every opportunity, then have awards ceremonies to celebrate promoting sin and disobedience to God's word.
This is too general a statement. Even if porn movies and movies advocating homosexuality and the like promote filth in sin, this does not mean that the whole industry does it at every opportunity. I also doubt that celebrating promoting sin and disobedience to God's word is their primary intent. I'd assume that celebrating good movies is their intent, and their idea of good movies could have any amount of filth in them.
Be sure to read for more information about the people who influence our film and media outlets and thereby influence society.
I suppose I'll eventually wind up doing this to comment on it, but I've got other, more important things to take care of at the moment.

They are also planning to picket at the Harvy Milk High School in New York City from 3:30 to 4 PM, but don't have any description for the event at this time. Since there is no description, I can't provide commentary and thus cannot dedicate a blog post to it.

Calvinism and Westboro Baptist Church: An Introduction

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 0 comments
As Westboro Watch is about the beliefs and actions of Westboro Baptist Church, it isn't complete without an examination on Calvinism. Why not go into a brief history lesson about John Calvin (obviously the man this dogma was named after) and his followers?

An Incredibly Condensed History of Calvinism

In 1517, Martin Luther wrote to his bishop, criticizing the selling of indulgences (partial or full remission of sins paid with money) used to fund the rebuilding of St. Peter's Basilica, among other things he saw as corrupt within the Roman Catholic Church. With his letter he sent The Ninety Five Theses which would spread throughout Europe. This was the primary catalyst of the Reformation, in which people with minds like Luther joined to protest corruption in the Roman Catholic Church.

Two notable minds were Huldrych Zwingli (key reformer in Switzerland) and John Calvin (key reformer in France).

In 1533, Calvin had a religious experience which majorly changed his mindset. Though scholars disagree on the interpretation of his accounts, it is known that Calvin left the Roman Catholic Church afterward and began work in the Reformation when he published his Institutes of the Christian Religion in 1536. Influenced by the works of Augustine, he adopted the doctrines of predestination and absolute sovereignty of God.

Calvin's followers eventually crossed paths with Jacobus Arminius (founder of the opposing theology known as Arminianism) and his followers. Arminius's followers, desiring not to be called after him, named themselves Remonstrants.

When Arminius died before he could fulfill a request for a 14-page document on his views, the Remonstrants fulfilled the request in his stead, making the Five Articles of Remonstrance. These articles were reviewed by the Synod of Dort, in which Arminians were denied entry. The Calvinists in the Synod of Dort eventually ruled that Arminianism was heretical and provided the Five Points of Calvinism as a response.

The TULIP of Doom

The Five Points of Calvinism (which most Calvinists hold to, including WBC) are as follows:
  • T: Total Depravity. Due to the Fall of Man caused by Adam and Eve, mankind is totally enslaved in sin. Because of this, man is inclined to serve his own lusts and desires instead of the God to the point of being morally unable to follow God without His intervention. (Total here means that sin affects every part of man--it doesn't mean that every man is as evil as possible.)
  • U: Unconditional Election. God has chosen from the beginning who he will reconcile to himself--not based on their virtue, merit, or faith, but grounded in his mercy alone. God chooses to extend mercy to those he chooses and refuses mercy to those he hasn't chosen.
  • L: Limited Atonement. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ is meant to atone for only the elect God has chosen, and no one else. It is limited in scope, not in power.
  • I: Irresistable Grace. God's grace to the elect will, at some point in their lives, forcibly overcome all their resistance to accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.
  • P: Perseverance of the Saints. As God is the sovereign predestinator of the fate of all mankind, none of the elect can cease to be the elect and lose their salvation. Christians that fall away were either not saved to begin with or will return to Christianity.
Other Beliefs

Calvinists also believe in Covenant Theology (which splits the Bible history and theology into separate covenants) and the regulative principle of worship (anything that isn't permitted in the Bible is not allowed in worship, even if there was no specific passage condemning its inclusion). These theological bits may not be covered as much as the five points simply because they do not matter as much when looking at the Westboro Baptist Church's practices.

In the next part of this series, I will look at the five points with a critical eye.

Loving Thy Neighbor: Part 2--Electric Boogaloo

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Monday, January 9, 2012 0 comments
In the first entry of the Loving Thy Neighbor series, I discussed the story of the Good Samaritan and his compassion compared to Westboro Baptist Church's lack of compassion. I'll start this part by continuing from that story.

As I mentioned before, the Samaritans were the descendants of both captive Israelites and Gentiles, making them an "impure" race. The Jews hated them because they were impure, and the Samaritans hated them back. So much, in fact, that they might as well have been enemies. Fortunately for us, Jesus had something to say about loving our enemies.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. (Matthew 5:44:48)
Much care should be taken around the words "son" and "children". While they have a literal meaning the same as their meanings today, they could have a less literal meaning. "Son" could refer to a descendant (e.g. son of Abraham), a pupil or follower, someone physically existing and having abilities as a man (which is why Jesus called Himself the Son of man), someone in the likeness of another, or whoever God esteems as a son. Because salvation is by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8) and is obtained by calling upon the Lord (Romans 10: 9-13), I'd have to say that "children" in this verse (which uses the same Greek word for "son" in the Textus Receptus) is referring to those in His likeness.

In short, we are like God when we love our enemies. We are made like God because He loves all of mankind so much that He offered Himself for them.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; WHO WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; WHO GAVE HIMSELF A RANSOM FOR ALL, to be testified in due time. (1 Ti. 2:3-6, emphasis added Note: the Greek word thelo means "I wish/will." The wording in verse 4, where thelo is, is a little wonky in the 21st century, but the verse basically means "Who is willing that all men be saved...".)
As they embrace strict Calvinism, simply quoting John 3:16 isn't enough. WBC's members believe that "the world" refers to only the elect. According to them, "world" does not mean "all of earth's inhabitants" anywhere in the Bible.
And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness. (Psalms 9:8)
Apparently this means that God will only judge the righteous in righteousness, because "world" exclusively means "elect" here. This interpretation is awfully fitting with the unpleasant implications of Calvinism, as I am about to demonstrate.

As we saw in the previous episode of Loving Thy Neighbor, WBC members miserably fail in loving their neighbors and have deceived themselves into thinking that picketing and suing people is an exemplary display of loving their neighbors. What they believe about God, however, is much worse.

While they believe that they love their enemies, they also believe that God has no love for them and HATE, HATE, HATE!!!s them so much that he'd actively predestine them to Hell before they were ever born. They believe in a God with no compassion, yet they fool themselves into thinking they have it.

If the Westboro God was the Samaritan, He'd have no compassion on the beaten Jew. He wouldn't be "good". He'd be as unholy as the priest and Levite who ignored the man. He would contradict His own parable, making Him a hypocrite. He'd be a meta-hypocrite 40 times over, as "hypocrite", "hypocrites", and "hypocrisy" are mentioned and condemned in the Bible that many times.

He'd have created most people so that they could go to Hell. He'd have provided no salvation or anything for them. They had no free will over their souls. They had no choice. The path to righteousness is only available to a select few.

The Calvinist God is the most hypocritical and cruel monster the world has ever seen.

And you dare call that distorted image of the Lord God Jehovah holy?

I could be accused for blasphemy for that logic, and I have. But anyone who attacks me with an ad hominem like that missed the point that their beliefs are blasphemous, and I'm only taking them to their logical conclusion.

It could be argued that God doesn't have to follow the same standards He gives mankind, and it has. That basically gives their idea of God an excuse to be a hypocrite, to be cruel, and to rape anyone he sees fit. 

I don't believe in that God. I don't give my God excuses, because He doesn't need them. I believe in a God in whom is no sin (1 John 3:5). 

I believe that God is love, and that He loves all of mankind. I believe that He loved the depraved Ninevites he sent Jonah to. I believe He loved the Samaritans that He met after talking with the woman at the well. I believe He loved the multitudes He saw at Galilee, so much that He compared them to a harvest with few laborers and commanded his disciples to pray for more lauborers (Matthew 9:35-38).

I believe He loves the whole world, and gave Himself for it. I believe that Westboro is wrong.

The Westboro Picket Schedule: Thomas F. Eagleton Courthouse in St. Louis, MO

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Thursday, January 5, 2012 0 comments
In case you didn't notice from last time, there are no links to WBC's hate site for Google's sake.

On January 9, 2012, the Westboro Baptist Church will picket at the Thomas F. Eagleton Courthouse.
WBC to picket the 8th circuit arguments as you try yet another avenue to shut up the words of the Living God. 
Apparently something is going on in the courthouse that may censor WBC's message. I searched for exactly what would be happening and could not find anything that helped, so I have to take their word for it.
At issue here is the sovereignty of the Living God and whether the servants of the Almighty God may be punished for lawfully proclaiming and praising the marvelous words of the Most High, to wit:
As much as I hate to admit it, the rights of Westboro Baptist Church to free speech should be defended. If we censor the hate groups, we may wind up setting a precedent that can unfairly censor others.

That said, Fred Phelps is really pushing it:
thank God for killing american soldiers in His wrath and executing His promised vengeance on a people that will not hear and obey the law of God!
And yet they have the gall to say that pickets is how they display their love towards their neighbor! Please read the previous post, Loving thy Neighbor: Part 1 to see why this is false.
The servants of Satan screech from the roof tops:
The land is not able to bear all [H]is words.  Amos 7:10
Freddy believes that, since people cannot bear his words, he must be in the right. He's using a logical fallacy called Affirming the Consequent, and it works like this:
The words of God are hated by wicked men.
Wicked men hate my words.
Therefore, I must be speaking the words of God.
By his logic, Scientology is the word of God because wicked men (by his standards) hate it. Hitler must have spoken the words of God because people hate him. The sysops at Encyclopedia Dramatica, the uber-offensive not-safe-for-work-or-humanity satirical wiki, must be absolute angels because they manage to anger loads and loads of people who then threaten to take them down.

Logic is not one of Fred's strong suits.
So your answer is to try to keep His servants from warning that your destruction is imminent and that your sons and daughters are still coming home in body bags.  But your faithful servants will continue to deliver the message and tell you to SHUT UP and DRINK from the cup of God's fury!
Therefore thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Drink ye, and be drunken, and spue, and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you.  Jeremiah 25:27
Heed the warning and obey your God today!
They intentionally pick the verses that seemingly leave compassion out of the picture. It's as if they believe God has no compassion for the lost. No, wait, that IS what they believe.

Their beliefs don't sound so hot when you read a verse like this.
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?  (Ezekiel 33:11)
I understand the audience to whom this was originally written for, but the statements are general. They encompass all of mankind. God is not pleased to send the wicked to Hell. How can these people picket "thank God for dead soldiers" and "pray for more dead soldiers" when God isn't pleased in taking the lost ones into eternity?

Why do they even go so far as to picket "planes crash, God laughs"? Why? Why? WHY???

Loving Thy Neighbor: Part 1

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Most people believe that Westboro Baptist Church hates just about everyone. On the other hand, WBC members believe that they show their love through picketing. Something doesn't add up here, and I hope I can address this anomaly.

Since we're going into some doctrinal things here, we'll need to get out our Bibles and walk through it with some valid hermeneutical practices.

The phrase "love thy neighbour" appears word for word in 8 verses in the King James Version. A ninth verse with the same message can be found by looking for the words but not the exact phrase. It first appears in Leviticus 19:18:
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
This means that the law of loving thy neighbour was present even in Mosaic times. Jesus supported keeping this commandment even in the New Testament. A particular mention of this commandment is right before the parable of the Good Samaritan, in Luke 10:25-37.
And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour? And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise. 
I don't have time for a 30-minute sermon on the Good Samaritan, but I'd like for us to think for a bit on the text. Note the following:
  1. A lawyer tempted him. This is not the only time this happened; the Pharisees and Sadducees tried multiple times to entangle the Lord in his talk. They always failed because Jesus is God.
  2. Jesus asked him what was in the law. The lawyer promptly responded by giving the two greatest commandments: Love thy God with everything, and love thy neighbor as thyself. Jesus responded that this was how he should obtain eternal life. Because Jesus is God, he'd have to display that love by accepting Jesus Christ as his Savior.
  3. The lawyer tried to justify himself. If there was no lack of this love in this life, he wouldn't need to justify himself. He did so by asking who is neighbor was.
  4. Jesus responded with a parable that basically rephrases the question to "Who am I neighbor to?"
The last point is especially important because if someone is our neighbor, we are neighbors to them. The priest and the Levite were definitely not good neighbors, as they showed no compassion on him. In contrast, the Samaritan does.

The Jews and Samaritans of the day hated each other. This is most evident in the book of John, where Jesus has a conversation with one Samaritan woman at a well. Samaritans were the impure descendants of the tribes of Israel taken into Assyrian captivity around 722 B.C. Israelite blood mingled with Assyrian and other non-Israelite blood, resulting in the Samaritan race. Because they were part-Gentile, the Jews hated them, and it seems that the Samaritans weren't too fond of the Jews either.

But the Good Samaritan was different. He showed compassion on the wounded Jew when he had no reason to have it, when the priest and Levite had every reason to have it. The Samaritan dropped what he was doing, bandaged the man's wounds, nourished him with oil and wine, set him upon his own beast, took him to an inn, and took care of him with his own money.

Compassion is a complex emotion of love and sorrow. It makes one want to work to help someone. It's what gets money to the Red Cross. It's what pays for the relief efforts in Japan, Haiti, and anywhere else disaster strikes.

The members of Westboro Baptist Church have no compassion. They have no love. They don't even know what it means to love their neighbor. They think that cussing and flaming and thanking God for dead soldiers is love.

I have far too much to say on this subject for one blog post, so I will conclude here with Matthew 25:41-45:
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 
Westboro Baptist Church doesn't love its neighbors. It hates them.

Searching for an acceptable Blogger template

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 0 comments
I'm looking for an blogger template that looks excellent and works fine for me at this time. Until I find that perfect template, expect the appearance to change a lot very often...

The Westboro Picket Schedule: Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas

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Due to content guidelines provided by Google, I will not post the link to the God Hates Fags website. Instead, feel free to search for it. It isn't hard to find.

On January 6th, 2011, the members of Westboro Baptist Church will use their vast sum of money gained from lawsuits to protest at the Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas. The text is as follows:
WBC to picket the Cotton Bowl:  K-State vs. Arkansas.  Your destruction is imminent!  Instead of humbling yourself before your God, you worship your football.
Granted, many churches notice a rather interesting situation that many professing Christians would rather watch the Super Bowl on Sundays than go to church. The WBC is right in that some people more or less worship their football more than they worship God. It's not like they made this up.

However, the way they go about dealing with this problem is a whole different matter. As I will talk about some other time, Westboro doesn't care about winning souls. They show no compassion in their message because they believe it doesn't matter. To them, humans have no free will; 99.999% of them were damned to Hell before God said "let there be light."
If you gave even a fraction of the time, money, or interest in serving God that you give to the players on the field, this country wouldn't be in the mess it is in.  We are coming in warning to this foolish evil generation.
I actually have to agree somewhat with the first sentence quoted here. As I said before, some professing Christians do value the Super Bowl over church. Americans in general seem to spend too much time entertaining themselves when they could be doing something for others. Also, professional sport players are paid way too much in my opinion, even if what they're doing requires plenty of skill.

But, I fail to see the point of warning this generation when those predestined to Heaven will get there anyway. Again, I'll have to discuss this later.
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.  Revelation 14:7
This verse is in the context of the seven-year tribulation in the book of Revelation. That hasn't quite come yet. Granted, this is a minor nitpick, but Fred Phelps loves to blindly follow his own hermeneutic and selectively picks verses that supports his position regardless of any context.
God has blinded your eyes and stopped up your ears so you do not even see or hear your destruction coming upon you!
There should be some Texans who do follow Christ and do know about what should happen in the end times. I know because I've met them. Of course, they don't really exist because just about the only people going to heaven are Westboro Baptist Church members.
You have no money, jobs, homes, or hope - but you have your football!
That's hyperbole, right? I sure hope it is, because plenty of people have jobs, at least some money, and a home. On the other hand, they're probably sincere on them having no hope due to their extreme views.
Your condition will not change unless you hear and obey your God and the servants He has sent to warn you.  Obey today!
More people are going to be hindered from obeying God than encouraged because they're going to picket there without any compassion whatsoever. They will also possibly sue someone before the day is over, all for the glory of God.

Addicted to Hate: the Fred Phelps story

Posted by Capn Coconuts On Monday, January 2, 2012 2 comments
It seems that I cannot access Alyzza Martin's edited copy of this document, so I will link to the original document on

Most people know of Westboro Baptist Church as the place that protests with joyful posters having words like "GOD HATES FAGS" and "PRAY FOR MORE DEAD SOLDIERS." Few people know what has happened behind the Phelps's front door. Addicted to Hate shows exactly what is there.

Granted, people who have called themselves Baptists have not always been the most righteous of folks. For example, the Southern Baptist Convention was created over a dispute in slavery. But this defies anything I've seen. It shows just how depraved Fred Phelps was when he wasn't protesting or behind the pulpit, and his sons and former members Mark and Nate Phelps are our witnesses.

Almost all people who have read this hate Westboro Baptist Church. But reciprocating hate is sinful. As a Christian, I must love my enemies no matter how vile they are, as Jesus Christ commanded his disciples so that they would be like God in his love towards those same enemies (Matthew 5:43-47). Is God grieved because of Westboro Baptist Church? I believe He is exceedingly so. But God has given mercy to people who were much worse, such as the Ninevites in the book of Jonah.

Addicted to Hate is not a reason to hate WBC, but it exposes the pastor's fruits and his obvious spiritual need. He should know that God is a far greater witness than Mark or Nate are, and that he will go to Hell if he doesn't truly repent of his sins.

EDIT: Alyzza Martin has provided a link to the edited version. You can find it here.

Westboro Watch rises from its grave

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The old, defunct blogspot blog known as Westboro Watch has returned. Hopefully, it will last for a while this time.

Some things will be different from the old blog, for the very few of you who might have seen the old version. In particular, this version has a calmer, more formal, and more tactful tone. The old version often got vitriolic and sarcastic when pointing out flaws in Westboro Baptist Church's theology and the like, which shouldn't have happened. Such a thing might have convinced a Westboro Baptist Church member that I hated them and that they were in the right when the exact opposite is true.

The purpose of Westboro Watch is two-fold: to educate the masses about Westboro Baptist Church and to convince its members that their theology is a disgrace to true Christianity. Due to my formerly crass way of communication, I was failing in the much more difficult part when I didn't need to.

That will not happen any more. I was made to be a compassionate creature, and now I will act like one.